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"Divine Sovereignty and Divine Judgment." [first posted 1/17/08] Question #1: I've been reading a lot
lately about what John Piper calls Christian Hedonism. What are your
thoughts? I've heard mixed reactions, most of the negative being from
those holding to a more Arminian doctrine, and the positive coming from
those holding to Calvinist doctrine. What do you think about Calvinism
in general? I know those are awfully broad questions, but I'm interested
to hear what you think. I think your site is great, by the way. Thanks a
lot! Response #1: Thanks for your
positive comments! I'm not familiar with Piper's work, but certainly
there are plenty of Christians who have become increasingly
uncomfortable with certain trends in what I call the "church visible",
that is to say, there can be a large gap between those who are Christ's
and those who belong to churches. The two sets overlap, to be sure, but
they are not identical by any means. I don't think this is so much a
doctrinal issue as it is a behavioral one. It is true that there are
(and have always been) those who excuse sinful behavior and attempt to
justify it scripturally (rather than just practicing it). In the first
century, we already have the "Nicolaitans" who are censured by the Lord
Himself in the book of Revelation (chapters 2 and 3). Today we hear
about the "prosperity gospel" and all sorts of other fringe and cult and
cult-like leaders and groups who make gross sinfulness of one sort or
another a part of their "faith and practice". I don't think one can
blame Arminius for this – what he actually says is not really that
different from what Calvin has to say, in my unique view of it, and
neither of their positions really makes much sense imported into the
modern day apart from the context of the crucible of the Reformation in
which they were formed. I personally believe that the Bible teaches both
free will (i.e., the opportunity to accept and follow God's will) AND
divine sovereignty (expressed in election, among other things).
Logically these two ideas have often been seen as contradictory, but
theologically I do not see them as such. I think that David F. Wells has
a point when he argues that "Evangelicalism" (sic) talks a good game
about the importance of the Bible and the importance of Bible teaching
and doctrine, but in practice has become completely disinterested in the
process of spiritual growth (my expansion of the thesis). And it really
should be no surprise that, where Christians are no longer serious about
scripture, faith and practice suffer mightily, and "worldliness", that
is, loving and enjoying the world rather than focusing on the Lord and
our mission here in the world to serve Him, becomes the rule rather than
the exception. First, do you believe
God is absolutely sovereign? That's what Scripture seems to point to,
and I had never really questioned it before. However, the Bible is
pretty clear that God hates sin. Why, then, if He is sovereign, would He
create sin, which he hates? If God created and ruled the world in a
manner that was ultimately pleasing to Him, bringing Him more glory, why
sin? I remember reading something by Jonathan Edwards about this.
Edwards speaks of God having two wills, a will of decree and something
else. Response #2: In my opinion, this all
gets back to the issue of free will. Also, in my opinion again, this is
a "problem" which is far more simple in fact than in structured
theology. Yes indeed, God is sovereign, and completely so. If He were
unable to allow us to make a choice for or against Him, would He really
be sovereign? Certainly, He could have chosen to structure the moral
universe that way in His sovereignty, but He could also choose (and in
fact has chosen) to set things up so that every moral creature would
have to make a decision for or against Him. That doesn't deprive Him of
sovereignty. Quite to the contrary, He could hardly be called a true
sovereign if He were for some reason unable to allow this choice in His
overseeing of creature history. Even in New Testament times, there were
many unbelievers who played games with this principle as
is reflected by Paul's comments in Romans (cf. Rom.6:1-2; 6:15-16; 7:7): Here
we see unbelievers claiming that they have no responsibility for
their actions because God is sovereign. Paul turns this argument around
and shows them that according to the logic of their position God's
sovereignty includes the right to make them not only responsible but to
judge them for their actions which He has ordained in His sovereignty.
We are left then with only one real question – did they have any real
choice? The answer permeates scripture. There is not a page in the Bible
(or Romans) where we are not earnestly entreated to good and godly
behavior while at the same time dissuaded from sinful and evil behavior.
We are ever beckoned closer to God, and ever warned against turning our
backs on Him. If we have no true choice, this would seem to be pointless
encouragement and pointless admonition. In fact, everything we see in
the natural order of things shows us not only that there is a God who
will demand an account (Rom.1:18-32), but that what we do does matter,
and that we are responsible for what we do – civilization would collapse
if everyone could avoid any responsibility for anything they did, and
wherever particular civilizations shy away from personal responsibility,
decay inevitably follows. We know that we are responsible, ergo we
understand that we have free will, that is, that we are free to seek God
– or not. This will be made crystal clear on the day when God judges the
true thoughts and intents of the hearts of all mankind (Rom.2:16). The
fact that many choose to see themselves as "wise" and engage in various
exercises in highly sophistic argumentation only shows the truth of the
passage "Claiming to be wise, they became foolish" (Rom.1:22; cf.
1Cor.1:18-31). Question #3: Hello Bob, Response #3: I would imagine that
you are already aware of this, but – just in case – let me point out
that the newly posted study
"Hamartiology: the
Study of Sin" gives the details, the argumentation, the theology,
and the scriptural support for my much simplified answer below (see
especially
section V. "The Believer's Dealing with Sin"). Sin is, however, quite a problem. In addition to divine discipline,
there is also the fact that sin has the potential to tear down
everything we have built up in our spiritual life, compromising not only
our spiritual growth, but also everything we have accomplished in
ministry and the rewards pertaining thereto (cf. 2Jn.1:8). The most
extreme case of this is apostasy, wherein the believer gives him or
herself so fully and completely up to sin and evil that faith is not
only eroded, but eventually quenched altogether, so that the end is
worse than the beginning (2Pet.2:20-22). |
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